OEM or Brembo. I have been searching the forums for brake and rotor info and i've run into some conflicting info. Everyone says the Brembo discs are expensive, i'm finding them to be cheaper than OEM, the Balo and Zimmerman seem to be expensive. I haven't seem much info about how these discs perform in comparison though.
I'm looking for solid discs, no slotted or cross-drilled. Anyone have experience with these discs? I have nothing but praise for their performance.Ourea spa quezon city
I have noticed no difference in performance on my BMW, and they seem to dissapate heat and resist warping better than the OEM rotors on my Toyota. For brake rotors, I would stick with OEM. See how that compares to the other brands you've found. Some may be running Brembo's and not know it because they came in the white box with the BMW seal slapped on it. I found this on www. I replaced the rotors and pads on my about 2 years ago. I'm pretty certain I purchased Brembo rotors at the time.
I think they are indeed the OEM rotors. Dave Z. I also switched from stock front pads to Axis Deluxe. However, braking preformance is also slightly degraded IMO.
I have Brembo's, and I have a shimmy in my steering wheel when I brake now. It's only been about 10k relativly easy miles.
I have Brembo rear rotors for about 10k miles now, they seem to be ok, but they got put on the car when I first got it so I have nothing to compare them to. Fronts are BMW. One of the big differences on the Brembo units is that the center hub is not painted, so after just a few days it rusts and has stayed that way since then. The difference is night and day if you have wheels that are an open design and show the brakes, I know it bothers me every time I look at the car and see the rusty rear hub vs the nicely painted fronts.
If you get the brembo units, paint the hubs with high temp paint first. The yellowish appearance of the Brembos quickly fade to rust.Various opinions abound.
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I've seen comments by mechanics that say they are rubbish nowadays but many users say they are ok. Some reports about fast rate of wear. Its an Aftermarket product. Brembo is associated with Ferrari, but dont get excited, the brembo you buy is another aftermarket brand and not made in the same place as Ferrari parts. Ive seen a number of reports of fake brembo parts on fleabay. Bosch are OE suppliers but the parts we buy are the aftermarket versions, however of the three, Bosch is the one I would use.
The last 3 sets of Bosch pads I bought for different models were made in Italy and come packed in a box with a hologram seal. Assuring that they are genuine. All pads must comply with ECE r90, however discs do not have mandatory compliance for cars built before What about Textar pads, are they any good? Is it better to buy same brand name of disc and pad or doesn't really make any difference?
Most discs are "coated" aka painted to stop non friction surfaces rusting. Not sure about Brembo, last time several years ago I used them they were simply oiled. In the end you get what you pay for. Next change I've got ceramic ATE pads to try out, claimed to last much longer both pad and disc and very low dust. If that works out as claimed, that's the way I will definitely be going in future. I've used all three of these in various combinations of the last few years on different cars within the family and never had a problem with any.
No noticeable difference in wear or performance.
At the end of the day I've say it's down to personnel preference, I tend to go with whoever's the cheapest at the time out of the three. Running Bosch here and they are great!Voditeljica dnevnik hrt
The car stops so I guess they work Just got for whats cheapest. I got Bosch fitted due to it being cheap on the day of fitting! You say that Jurid is now part of TMD Friction, but earlier, for another reason, I looked up Jurid as my wife's August Polo has Jurid pads fitted at factory in South Africa, and Jurid are showing as "Jurid by Honeywell", but then when I clicked on their "contact" page, the link was to Federal Mogul, ie FM which VW now seem to use as their factory fitted windscreen wipers, though I don't know which wiper brand has ended up being part of the FM group.
Maybe 17 or so years ago, VW did tend to use Pagid pads on the front and Textar pads on the rear at initial assembly at their factories, now it seems that the main importer of Pagid parts into UK has convinced them to repackage some other parts, which might explain the drop in quality, its a pity that big business can call the shots on what were some well respected companies.
I'm sure that I read some where that the Turkish government either encourage or turn a blind eye to companies in Turkey churning out copy parts of Pagid brake pads, I think that there might even be an official manufacturing plant for Pagid brake pads in Turkey as well, very strange and makes ebay buying of Pagid brake parts a bit of a gamble.
You are probably right, I fitted some Jurid discs and pads on the Octavia, and there were labels with disclaimers that Jurid are not associated with Honeywell who owned Bendix. They were made in France. I always get brembo HC discs for cars at work. The pagid pads from ecp are ok but we've had some issues with them as the ones ecp sell are made under licence to a cheaper spec.
Textar are also good and are a OEM manufacturer for Mercedes. There pads from ecp do seem to be well made. Quote "The pagid pads from ecp are ok but we've had some issues with them as the ones ecp sell are made under licence to a cheaper spec.Designed and tested for predominantly performance-oriented street use, Brembo Sport brake pads represent the first upgrade level for any braking system. These products have been created for drivers with sporty ambitions and, more generally, for anyone who wants to maximise the potential of their car.
These pads boast levels of manufacturing quality and advanced materials that only Brembo can offer. They offer outstanding performance even without warming up and at low speeds, thanks to a specific friction material that ensures constant friction at all temperature ranges.
In addition to enhanced performance, this material also ensures outstanding quietness and reduced disc and pad wear.
Brembo Sport brake pads also offer exceptional brake pedal precision, for total control of the braking force. These are therefore the ideal brake pads for drivers who demand the best from their brakes, even during everyday use, and are even more effective if used in conjunction with the appropriate Brembo discs.
The assurance of an Original product Brembo also extends the innovative approach that has always distinguished its products to its customer service and, first in its field, is capable of protecting their customers from purchasing counterfeit products. To guarantee the security of purchasing an original product and not a counterfeit, Brembo places the special Original Card inside each package of this product, with which you can check its authenticity online.
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Brembo vs Pagid brake discs and pads?
Thoughts appreciated. Feirny 1, posts 99 months. Pagids are the better of the two in my experience, which is extensive. My Megane R26 currently has Pagid fitted all round with another set in the garage for when the time comes. A BMW specialist local to me will also only fit Pagid to vehicles.
I used to work for one of the above suppliers. Whereas I'm led to believe the Pagid aren't even close to being as good as the Brembo items. At least not the cheap items that ECP sell. Presumably that's why they're so cheap.
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Brembo discs are IME, superb. Used to fit the GSF ones all the time to my French cars that were tracked. BritishRacinGrin 17, posts months.
I have been consistently disappointed with OEM equivalent pads even from the big names.
Brembo vs Pagid brake discs and pads?
Dannbodge 1, posts 73 months. Never had any issues with pagid discs or pads. I would check BMW parts counter though, Older car parts aren't as expensive as you might think. Thanks for the feedback. I have fitted Pagid to many of my cars in the past and to be honest have never had any real issues. However I do appreciate quality if its affordable, which the Brembo items seem to be. However there hasn't been a conclusive opinion here.
Hmmnn I'll have a coffee and think about it. Need to get the parts tomorrow as the car is booked in for this work. EssexIan posts months. They really aren't a cheap or nasty product! Pagid is just a retail brand name of the group who produce Textar and many other well known brake part and other friction material brands.Brembo is the undisputed global leader in the production of brake discs, calipers and complete braking systems.
With its unrivalled expertise, Brembo produces everything from brake discs for the most popular cars in the European, American and Japanese markets to braking systems for the world's most prestigious and exclusive models.
The superlative levels of technology and reliability of Brembo products is founded on an integrated production process which encompasses every stage in the production process, from research and development and testing to casting and machining. On top of this is an ongoing commitment to research and development that sets Brembo apart as a leading name in its industry and allows the group to excel as both a manufacturer of reliable, durable components for the world's most popular and widely sold cars, and as a supplier of state-of-the-art braking systems designed and produced specifically for the most exclusive and desirable models in every class.
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Learn More. Dismiss Notice. Cookies Snack. Hello lads It's time for me to replace the front pads for the car. Nearly half the price. Is it worth getting the oem ones again? Or just for the Brembo OE's?
Anyone know the quality stiffened between the two pads? I cut my wear sensor off and soldered the wire together as the Redstuff pads didn't support Audi wear sensors, however when i looked into my coding with Vag-com the brake pad wear sensor was already disabled in special functions II, so i may have been better just unplugging it TJan 25, Apparently the Brembo sports pads are squeal free.
Do you know the pad volume from the oem Audi pads and Brembo? I never used EBC pads. Last edited by a moderator: Jan 25, These were my first set of replacement discs after miles look how the Audi OEM pads had scored the discs. These were the first set of pads after miles. Wow what a mess!
KelzaJan 25, Wow is this causing you vibration? Thank you for the answers and help mate. How would you compare the braking quality with the EBC vs Audi pads?
Better by far. Great thank you people. I have ordered the ebc pads see how they go!By gazofcorraDecember 20, in Brakes. Hi all i thought i would post this topic after several hours of reading through the brake topics listed on this forum, now i know a few members sell various brake components at fair prices and this is not aimed at them but questions the products that they sell for the Z.
Now driving styles vary for each owner but as you have bought this car and not the nissan micra this points to you enjoying a 2 seater RWD V6 and that equals some spirited driving at times, you might even take your car to a track day session to experience it at it's best in a controlled enviroment Oh Yeah.
What is wrong with the OEM brake setup? Brembo, EBC, Tarox, Ferrodo, Mintex blah blah blah I would rather hear from other Zee owners who have spent there hard earned money on brake parts and what they think works or does not work against the standard brake package the car came with. I have the brembo OEM brakes on my veHicle and i cannot comment how good or bad they are as i have only had my car a few weeks, but coming from a Skoda 2. I have checked my discs and the outer rotor has a slight ridge whilst the inner rotor has a bigger ridge, as i am not familiar with the thicknesses the discs should be before they are replaced i am not sure when mine will need changing but i may have to buy new discs and pads next year, the reason why wait until next year is that my Zee is my second car and only used on certain occasions, the reason for this is i live in a rural part of Shropshire and i am surrounded by hedge lined narrow lanes with no road markings as well as no street lamps and farms all over the place so for normal everyday things i use my old 4x4.
I would possibly buy Brembo discs and pads to go with my brembo calipers as we all know Brembo brakes are used on lots of performance vehicles as well as in motorsport so they are well proven to work, but this may not be the best route and that is why i have posted this topic. I thought OEM pads were okay when I first bought the car, until Big Phil sold me some Endless pads still budget pads and the difference was very noticeable!
I would never go back to OEM now. However, it all depends on your driving style and budget. My brakes were nearing the end of their lifespan, so I replaced them with Dixcel discs on the front, DBA discs on the rear and Endless pads all round. These for me Cant beat ceramics. Fantastic, and no need clean wheels constantly, due to no break dust. Nothing wrong with OEM setup for spirited driving but it can fade quite noticably on the track - and also remember that in many cases you can get uprated kit cheaper than OEM, this is why most plump for it - 2 birds with one stone - more performance and cheaper than OEM.
EBC are fine if you realise what they are for. They are budget kit, and again are fine for spirited driving, but not track driving. Red stuff are equated to uprated pads on most cars, but for the Zed, they have admitted they are closer to stock. To update with EBC you need yellowstuff. As for the discs, again, they are fine for fast road use, but not track. The Zed being heavy it puts a lot of heat into the discs and EBC cant take it. There are sooo many packages out there its very hard to offer advice, type of use and budget are the 2 most important factors.
It sounds like you wont be tracking your car, but rather fast road useage, and you want something around more likely less than the OEM setup from a dealer. If you are going to track it though, dont be supprised if you warp the discs if you are heavy on the brakes, as they cant take too much heat. Fast road they will be fine. One thing i notice after changing to endless is now the wheels stay much cleaner. Great replies so far guys and i have looked into the Dixcel discs and pads and also the DBA discs and as far as i can tell these are very good, i have read mixed reviews on the endless pads so some more reviews would be great.
Chris i will be going to the track during as until you have done a track day you don't know what your missing, i have not ever tracked a car but when i was into my bikes i done plenty of them so i am looking forward to me and zee having some quality time so that rules out the EBC discs.
I have now decided that the OEM setup is not suitable for me and i will have to go the uprated route especially as i am looking to do a few track days as well as some spirited fast road use as this is not my main car the zee is more like my MISTRESS, as i sneak out at certain times and she demands a good seeing too, which i obviously oblidge. There are obviously loads more to choose from but from what i have read up to now these are used by lots of drivers of Z's and other fast performance cars with good results.
When my brakes needed changing i went for uprated pads all round DSand the DBA discs, purely because they were cheaper than OEM, but more importantly they were a vast improvement over stock. I never managed to take the car on track days, but did a lot of spirited driving on A and B roads and not once did i have any fade however hard i pushed.
If you are going to do the odd track day then this set up will be adequate, but if you want to push the car to the limit and beyond and thrash it round the nurburgring lap after lap, then think about going for something even better.
My god the brakes were phenomenal. He was braking so late i was bricking it and thinking if my life insurance was in order All in all an awesome bit of kit, but its a few grand out of your bank account!!! That to sounds a good setup that you have and it is always better to hear off people who have tried different brake setups, i did not realise that the OEM discs and pads were so expensive and the last thing i wanted to do was compromise my braking and as long as the replacements were as good as stock brembo OEM setup and capable of 1 or 2 trackdays per year then this is what i am looking out for as i will have to change mine early next year.Okara marina
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